8/12/2004

 

AIDS Dissidents - Truths About AIDS Denialists


AIDS Apologists VS AIDS Dissidents - Truths About AIDS Denialists


**Many groups/forums are being attacked by AIDS dissidents (we have had the same problem from sites like dissidentaction and virusmyth or from paulking, so we are warning you). Please make sure you block domain names listed on http://www.medchecker.com/dissident/aids-dissidents.htm. You must do what you can to stop these web terroists/trolls before they take over your web site and any rational conversations! It may be a good idea to remove this entire thread...

AIDS apologists are those who know HIV leads to AIDS (proven by science, so much scientific proof) and we are defending the scientifically known fact that viral pathogenesis and progression of 'HIV to AIDS' causes the eventual need for combination therapies to prolong life. Mixed "AIDS Apologist" links here or find comments here from both sides (dissidents and the scientific community), but still about AIDS Apologist activities...

AIDS dissidents (better known as AIDS Denialists who are AIDS dissidence, dissidence is anti-establishment like, against science and progression, argumentative) deny HIV causes AIDS and claim the medications kill the patients (AZT "over use" alone started this myth in the late 80s, but medicine combo/therapies are working today in the year 2000+). Basically a group of non doctors and non scientists who challenge the conventional HIV/AIDS model or hypothesis and do not accept the proven evidence. These dissident groups seem almost fanatical by them posting the same message multiple times to a targeted list of internet websites (non dissident sites of course, clogging up the normal flow of reading material with intentions of shutting the sites down) and insulting/bashing anyone who may not agree.

What are AIDS dissidents? Find out who, what, where, when and why:
http://www.hivforum.com/?dissident=dissident+site:aegis.com

What are AIDS denialists all about? See the myths exposed:
http://www.hivforum.com/?dissident=dissident+site:thebody.com

Learn about how they are murdering HIV positive people:
http://www.medchecker.com/dissident/aids-dissidents.htm

Thanks.
http://www.HIVforum.com


Comments:
HERE IS A LIST OF THE MAIN DISSIDENTAL SITE OWNERS, GIVE THEM A CALL OR SEND A EMAIL (use www.sendfakemail.com to be anonymous, also, join these jerks emails up to email lists):

Domain name: dissidentaction.com
A.I. multimedia
Paul King aimulti@aimultimedia.com
AKA: Mark Hanau
+1.3236562185
Fax: +1.3236541141
2340 Stanley Hills Drive
LA, CA 90046, US

Domain name: aimultimedia.com
A.I. Multimedia.com
Paul King aimulti@aimultimedia.com (also uses 50 different fake freemail.com accounts)
AKA: Mark Hanau
1-323-656-2185
2340 Stanley Hills Drive,
LA, CA 90046, US

Domain name: aidsmyth.com WE GOT THIS DOMAIN NAME SHUT DOWN!
Fintan Dunne ( fintandunne1@eircom.net )
+353.353857328141
29 Ludford Drive
Ballinteer, Dublin 16, IE

Domain Name: ALIVEANDWELL.ORG & questionaids.com
Admin Organization:Alive and Well
Admin Street1:5806 Tobias Avenue
Admin City:Van Nuys
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:91411
Admin Country:US
Admin Email: christine@aliveandwell.org
877-922-5483
11684 Ventura Boulevard
Studio City, CA 91604, US
11684 VENTURA BLVD
STUDIO CITY, CA 91604-2699, US
818 780 1875 fax: 818 780 7093

Domain Name: VIVOYSANO.COM
ALIVE & WELL AIDS ALTERNATIVES (A4447-OR) christine@aliveandwell.org
11684 VENTURA BLVD
STUDIO CITY, CA 91604-2699, US
818 780 1875 fax: 818 780 7093

Domain Name: WHATISAIDS.COM
Best, Betty bbest@best.com
1884 Market Street
San Francisco, CA 94102, US
415-864-6686

domain: thewizardofpoz.com
owner: Stefan Tanner
email: swissyboy@onetelnet.ch
address: Amselweg 17
city: Winterthur
state: CH
postal-code: 8400
country: Switzerland

Domain Name: ALTHEAL.ORG
Registrant Name:John Kirkham
Registrant Street1:Pleasington
Registrant Street2:WhiteHouse Lane
Registrant City:Great Eccleston
Registrant Postal Code:PR3 0XB
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.31628471916
Registrant Email: petem@xs4all.nl

Domain Name: sidasante.com
Mark Griffiths
Hameau de Besse
Festes St.Andre
11300 FX or
Colm Beeson (MB00027-TR)
28 rue des Docteurs Bourguet
Beziers
34500 FR
phone: +33.467625625
fax: +33.467625626
colm@occitan.net

Domain Name: ACTUPSF.COM
Steve Huggins sghuggins@hotmail.com 415-864-6686 actupsf@hotmail.com

Domain Name: HEALTORONTO.COM
STRYG, CARL (CS12951) endaids@HOTMAIL.COM
HEAL TORONTO
993 QUEEN STREET EAST
TORONTO, ON M4M 1K2, CANADA
(416) 406 4325

Domain Name: AIDSREALITYCHECK.ORG & AIDSMYTHEXPOSED.COM
Registrant Street1:8965 Santa Monica Blvd.,
Registrant Street2:PMB #157
Registrant City:West Hollywood
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:90069-4911
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.3236927766
Registrant Email: mail@aidsrealitycheck.org
Registrant Name:Rod Knoll
Or Email: rod@aidsrealitycheck.org

Domain Name: HEALSD.ORG
Registrant Name:Jordan Maerin
Registrant Organization:HEAL San Diego
Registrant Street1:3955 Arizona St., Apt. M
Registrant City:San Diego
Registrant Postal Code:92104
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Email: LordMaerin@aol.com

Domain Name: HIVUNFOUND.ORG
Registrant Name:Jordan Maerin
Registrant Organization:HEAL San Diego
Registrant Street1:3955 Arizona St., Apt. M
Registrant City:San Diego
Registrant Postal Code:92104
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Email: LordMaerin@aol.com

Domain Name: THEPERTHGROUP.COM
Val Turner vturner@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
17 Cygnet Cres
Perth, WA 000000 AU
Phone: 0422913541

Domain Name : RETHINKINGAIDS.COM
Registrant Name : Vitaliy Korshinskiy
Registrant Street1 : Kindiyske shosse 17/16
Registrant City : Kherson
Registrant State/Province : KH
Registrant Postal Code : 73035
Registrant Country : UA
Phone : +01.0552323084
Admin Email : alan@sitesfree.net

Domain Name: RETHINKING.ORG
Registrant Name:Frank Lusardi
Registrant Street1:305 East 40th Street
Registrant City:New York
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:10016
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Email: flusardi@PANIX.COM

Domain Name: AIDSFILMS.COM
HAZEL WOOD PICTURES (L4554-OR) Scovill@best.com
5806 TOBIAS AVE
SHERMAN OAKS, CA 91411-3127, US
Phone: 818 613 0734 fax: 123 123 1234

Domain Name: DUESBERG.COM
Duesberg, Peter (PDL108) duesberg@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU
229 Stanley Hall c/o MCB Dept. UC
Berkeley, CA 94720, US
707-642-6549

domain: aids-info.net
[owner-c] handle: 111850
[owner-c] type: PERSON
[owner-c] title:
[owner-c] fname: Regina
[owner-c] lname: Schmitz
[owner-c] org: Antivivisektion e.V.
[owner-c] address: Auf dem Sand 9
[owner-c] city: Unkel
[owner-c] pcode: 53572
[owner-c] country: DE
[owner-c] state: -/-
[owner-c] phone: +49
[owner-c] email: domain@aids-info.net

Domain Name: ROBERTOGIRALDO.COM
Giraldo, Roberto (RGX263) robegiraldo@AOL.COM
robertogiraldo.com
36-25 29 th st
Long island city, NY 11106, US
Phone: (718) 786-6759

Domain Name: FREE-NEWS.ORG
Registrant Name:Brauli Tamarit Tamarit
Registrant Street1:Sant Francesc, 5
Registrant City:Castelltercol
Registrant Postal Code:08183
Registrant Country:ES
Registrant Email: admin@pangea.org
AKA:Chris Nicol
Phone:+34.934015664

Domain Name: THEDURBANDECLARATION.ORG
Registrant Name:CARL STRYGG
Registrant Street1:993 QUEEN ST. E.
Registrant City:TORONTO
Registrant State/Province:ON
Registrant Postal Code:M4M 1K2
Registrant Country:CANADA
Registrant Phone:+1.416.778.4207
Registrant Email: abbalad@sprint.ca

Domain Name: AFRICA2000.COM
Pressnall, Steven (SP398) cquest@CQUEST.COM
6118 FRANCONIA RD STE 214
ALEXANDRIA, VA 22310-2565, US
703-971-6504 fax: 703-971-0368

domain: VIRUSMYTH.COM & virusmyth.net & virusmyth.org & duesberg.org
Institute for Investigative Medicine
Registrant Street1: Saturnusstraat 53
Registrant City: Hilversum
Registrant Postal Code:1223 HE
Registrant Country: The Netherlands NL
Registrant Email: robert@polder.net
Phone:+31.356835876

Domain Name: AFRICANAIDS.ORG
Registrant Name:Philip Weiss
Registrant Street1:9 Goddard Hall Road
Registrant City:Sheffield
Registrant State/Province:.
Registrant Postal Code:S5 7AP
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Email: hostmaster@nomodo.com

Domain Name: REDFLAGSWEEKLY.COM
regush, nicholas nregush@aol.com
2015
de la montagne
apt. 507
montreal, que H3G 1Z9, CA
514-499-2826

Domain name: HEALAIDS.COM & AIDSHEAL.COM
Anthony, King revdocnyc@aol.com
PO Box 1103 Old Chelsea Sta.
New York, NY 10113, US
+1.2128730780

Domain Name: RECLAIMTHEBRAIN.COM
rob d
broadway
n.y., NY 10019, US
Email: robscape9@aol.com

Domain Name: FOOFIGHTERS.COM
Meisel, Michael (JYGSJCYSRI) mmeisel@GASENT.COM
GAS Entertainment
8935 Lindblade Street
Culver City, CA 90232, US
(310) 204-2000 fax: (310) 204-2000

domain: rethinkaids.com & rethinking-aids.com
status: production
owner: Paul Philpott
email: paul@bencarsonscholars.com
address: 601 Bedford Dr
city: Westland
state: MI
postal-code: 48185
country: US

domain: rethinkingaids.net
registrant-firstname: Hans-Walter
registrant-lastname: Leonhard
registrant-street1: Im Stoeckig 124
registrant-pcode: 90765
registrant-city: Fuerth
registrant-ccode: DE
registrant-phone: +49.9117908439
registrant-email: hwleonhard@web.de

Domain Name: VIVOYSANOMEXICO.COM
Javier Flores

Domain Name: AMCMH.ORG
Registrant Name:Asociacion de Medicinas Comple
Registrant Street1:Madrid, 28224
Registrant City:Madrid
Registrant Postal Code:28224
Registrant Country:ES
Registrant Email: amcmh@AMCMH.ORG

Domain Name: SUMERIA.NET
NCC, Inc.
Farbod Kia
1820 San Pedro NE, #11
Albuquerque, NM 87110, US
Phone: 505-265-1013
Fax..: 505-265-0927
Email: farbod@nccabq.com

Domain Name: WHATISHIV.COM
PMB # 483
1733 H Street, Suite 330
Blaine, WA 98230-5106, US
1 800 633 8435 ext 05

Domain name: AIDSINDICTMENT.COM
Kitzerow, Jr, Marvin R. mkitzerow@yahoo.com
P.O. Box 32034
Chicago, IL 60632, US
773-376-2749 Fax: 773-376-2749

Domain Name: TOXI-HEALTH.COM
Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati maalbayati@JPS.NET
Toxi-Health International
150 BLOOM DR
DIXON, CA 95620-2509, US
(707) 678-4484 fax: (707) 678-8505

Domain Name : noaids.co.kr
Registrant : No Aids
Administrative Contact(AC): Lee Hun Hee
AC E-Mail : bompt@hanmail.net

Domain Name: OIKOS.ORG
Registrant Name:Mario Chisari
Registrant Organization: Ingegnere Informatico
Registrant Street1: Via delle Sette Chiese, 260
Registrant City: Roma
Registrant Postal Code: 00147
Registrant Country: IT
Registrant Phone: +39.065110773
Registrant Email: iw0cdt@amsat.org

Domain name: ourcivilisation.com
Atkinson Philip (ZTQU8) smartboard@bigpond.com
PO Box 574
Palm Beach, Queensland 4221, Australia
Phone: +61 (75) 598-5723
Fax: +61 (75) 598-5724

Domain Name.......... thelastwatch.com
Organisation Name.... Patrick Monette-Shaw
Organisation Address. 975 Sutter St.
Organisation Address. Apt. 6
Organisation Address. San Francisco
Organisation Address. 94109
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... pmonette-shaw@earthlink.net
Admin Phone.......... +1.4152926969

Domain Name: QREATIVEANGEL.ORG
Registrant Name:Wes Bennett
Registrant Organization:ArtSpace
Registrant Street1:po box 329
Registrant City:Utica
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:13503
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.3157332642
Registrant Email: wesbenn@aol.com or QreativeAngel@aol.com
 
On April 30, 2000, the The Washington Post announced a National Security Agency (NSA) move to place AIDS science, and all public health agencies conducting it, under the command of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). This move, curiously, follows South African President's Thabo Mbeki's decision to include the testimonies of “dissident” scientists in his country's review of HIV/AIDS treatment practices and the epidemic's origin.

President Clinton, advised by the National Intelligence Council (NIC), to formally declare global AIDS a U.S. “national security threat,” signed this policy into law. The action foreshadows the likely persecution, if not incarceration or assassination, of “dissident” AIDS scientists.
 
GAWD I HATE THE AIDS DISSIDENCE GROUPS, THE REMIND ME OF BUSH WHO IS ANTI EVERYTHING, PROBABLY A BUNCH OF BIBLE THUMPERS TOO OR BAREBACK GAY PORN ADDICTS!

DOWN WITH THE DISSIDENTS, THANKS FOR HELPING SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT DISSIDENT LIES!

I LIKE YOUR CAMPAIGN IDEA OF AIDS DISSIDUNCE, VERY CLEVER AND ANNOYING FOR THE DISSIDUNCE!
 
i see http://www.aids-dissidents.tk is one of your domain names daveyboy, really funny, it is sure to make the dissidents mad! LOL!
 
I posted to 5 dissident postings by Paul King last night, hope it helps out the "POZ Cause"! It only took me about 15 minutes of my time, just my way of helping as I cannot afford to give your group millions (I would if I could afford).

If everyone who is against the denialists were to make just one reply (with this sites copy and paste codes) to their postings, we would defeat them before we even knew it started! Let's get them! Let's give "them" a taste of their own medicine!

I am just about to set up a anti-dissident wwwboard on free hosting that will be anonymous, I will post the address here once it's set up...
 
I set up http://aids-dissidents.surfhere.net for you to add to you website daveyboy, it points to you antidissident blog, give them hell davey, may GOD be with you on all your antidissident journeys.

PS, you know you are the most prominent aids apologist/realsit there is out there on the internet today! Keep up the good work as not many are willing to put the same amount of time into as the dissidents.
 
Here is a list of aids dissident sites i have logged, webmasters make sure you ban all these domain names from your posting areas!

BEWARE: THESE FOLLOWING WEBSITES ARE AIDS LIES (we are exposing these liars only, not really educational sites, these sites are fake HIV/AIDS info):

www.aids-kritik.de www.aids-info.net www.thedurbandeclaration.org www.virusmyth.com www.rethinkingaids.com www.rethinkingaids.de www.actupsf.com www.duesberg.com www.aliveandwell.org www.wellcome.to/heal-berlin www.selbsthilfetreff.net/heal-berlin www.tolzin.de www.sumeria.net www.robertogiraldo.com www.AID$RC.org www.debating-azt.co.za www.whale.to www.colman.net www.virusmyth.net www.aidsmyths.addr.com www.notiz.ch www.mercola.com www.dorway.com www.news-gap.com www.noaids.com www.iatrogenic.org www.whatareweswallowing.com www.africa2000.com www.whatisaids.com www.7mac.com www.klein-klein-aktion.de www.tierversuchsgegner.org www.das-gibts-doch-nicht.de www.chemieopfer.de www.groma.ch www.aegis-schweiz.ch www.aegis-deutschland.de www.aegis-bayern.de www.aegis.at www.aufwaerts.at www.efi-online.de www.efi-marl.de www.vaccineinjury.org www.impfkritik.de www.dieimpfseite.de www.impfschutzverband.de www.impf-info.de www.surfmed.at www.pirolverlag.de www.impfschaden.info www.vaccines.net www.909shot.com www.vaccinationnews.com www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com www.impfportal.net www.vaclib.org www.vegan.swinternet.co.uk www.mothering.com www.wdtty.co.uk www.proliberty.com www.thinktwice.com www.mercola.com www.dorway.com www.ritalin-kritik.de www.freestevia.de www.impfirrtum.de www.impfreport.de www.neurodermitis.ch www.curezone.com www.vran.org www.ias.org www.wirtschaftsverbrechen.de www.aerzte-pfusch.de www.aspartamekills.com www.zdn.de www.klein-klein-verlag.de www.aidsbiowar.com
 
Here are some links I have on the Aids dissident bastards:

www.ilvirusinventato.it www.accountabilityproject.com www.users.bigpond.com/smartboard/aids/ www.laleva.cc www.toxi-health.com www.aids-kritik.de www.oikos.org/aids.htm www.rethinking.org www.angelfire.com/biz/pharmapact/ www.neue-medizin.com http://aidsmyth.addr.com http://sickofdoctors.addr.com http://healsd.topcities.com/lies.htm www.altheal.org http://users.bigpond.net.au/trt/ www.questionaids.com http://aliveandwell-eugene.dreamhost.com

More links can be found on http://aidsmyth.addr.com/links.htm or on http://www.feefree.com.au/trt/

If you were to search on www.google.com for any of these domains, you are sure to find postings relating to these AIDS dissident sites where you can comment and expose them! Examples: http://www.google.com/custom?q=virusmyth.com+reply or http://www.google.com/custom?q=aidsrc.org+comment
 
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F.Y.I., Duesberg is pronounced "douche bag"! Hahaha, almost as good as your DissiDUNCE, oi!

Cheers mate, from UK pozitive...
 
http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=477113 is one of the dissidents vile forums of lies...
 
I've been checking things out, and this site is intense! You guys are amazing! I can't believe I didn't know about this for so long. I admire the courage and tenacity shown here. It's truly inspiring.
 
list of HIV/AIDS quotes from rethinking/dissidUNCE
doctors and scientists compiled by
Marcel Girodian at: http://aras.ab.ca/articles/AIDSQuotes.htm

dissiDUNCE HIV discussion group in Australia. We recently created a new website with alternative information regarding the AIDS debate. We've compiled a range of articles about alternative healing and political issues. Its pretty basic but it's the first of its kind here. Any suggestions would be appreciated. The address is: members.optusnet.com.au/pozhealth

http://davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv/index.html lists more dissiDUNCED sites, also http://eionews.addr.com/articles/aidscracked.htm
 
Webmasters/managers of HIV/AIDS MSN forums/groups, you must protect your forums better, make it so all messages do not get posted until you approve them (Manager Settings) and also make it so in the links section, only those who posted the link may edit it or delete it (of course managers can always delete them)!

**Also, make sure you ban any trouble makers like "Paul King" or those irritating dating site spammers (not even HIV+).

**Also look over your links sections for SPAM/dissidents and make sure no one uploaded any unwanted pictures or documents! Hope this helps, I know it works good on MSN groups. NIP IT IN THE BUD 2004 CAMPAIGN!
 
LEAST NOW WE HAVE THE DISSIDENTS ON A NEW CAMPAIGN AND THEY DO NOT HAVE AS MUCH TIME TO POST THEIR LIES AS THEY ARE NOW TARGETING ME (DAVEYBOY), THIS MAKES ME HAPPY I AM STARTING TO GET THE BETTER OF THE DISSIDENTS! HORRAY! THE DISSIDENTS JUST CAN'T REFUSE THIS GORGEOUS FACE OF MINE! I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT SO FAR THIS HAS BEEN A 30% SUCCESS RATE IN OUR ANTI-DISSIDUNCE CAMPAIGN, WILL HAVE TO UP OUR CAMPAIGN TO BECOME MORE SUCCESSFUL! WE ARE JUST GETTING WARMED UP AND LEARNING HOW THE DISSIDENTS POST (their hours, schedule, tactics, methods, attack lists, etc).
 
http://groups.msn.com/HIVAIDSDissidents/messageboard.msnw was shut down by us, we were trying tactics that Paul King uses and it got the group shut down, now I know how he does it and I everyone should report to MSN that he is flooding the unmoderated groups with messages (please moderate and make it so people cannot post a message without approval). This is hacking now that I know what is going on and his nasty tricks (oops, I was an accomplice, no more though)...
 
AIDS DISSIDENT David Rasnick
rasnick@mindspring.com
January 20, 2003

Is this the hiv/aids dissident who died from not taking his medications?
 
http://www.small-business-finances.com/aidsfrontpage.html likes to sell AIDS dissident murderering books! They even advertise on Google Ads this book...
 
KellyJonLandis kjlandis@alumni.usc.edu
Kelly Jon Landis is really paul king!
 
Some Aids dissidence related names copied from public http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous/

ANTHONY BRINK
PIETERMARITZBURG
arbrink@iafrica.com

AIDS Science Inconsistencies
by John Kirkham
16th January 2003.
http://www.SickofDoctors.com

Brian Cady

Kelly Jon Landis [aka "Alexander"]

Dr. Leo Rebello India

Chris Tyler
Co-Moderator
AIDS MYTH EXPOSED

Liam Scheff" liam_scheff@hotmail.com published "The House That AIDS Built."
Liam Scheff published "Orphans on Trial,"

Tery Bigley, Culver, IN

David Fry, Manhattan

Kim Marie Bannon, Wichita, KS

Torsten Engelbrecht, Hamburg, Germany

Michel Beauchemin, Berkeley, CA

Frank Lusardi, Manhattan

Mark Gabrish Conlan
San Diego

Peter Duesberg's
 
Fintan Dunne's Online Journalism:

www.AidsMyth.addr.com

In April, 2000 I started the AidsMyth website with my partner Kathy McMahon. That was when the president of South Africa, Thabo Mbeki began to question the HIV=AIDS paradigm.
 
http://www.livejournal.com/community/rethinkingaids/ is another forum run by aids denialists - The moderator of this group is richie73 - http://www.livejournal.com/users/richie73/
 
There have been other exposing posts to http://aids-dissidents.blogspot.com/2004/08/down-with-dissidence.html if you care to look...

Remeber to post the source of your information :)
 
I just wanted to thank you for putting up this site exposing the AIDS "dissenters".

I am losing a friend of mine because he believed that the drugs diddn't work... Now he is dying much younger than he needed to and I was recently horrified to find out that recently he has not only been promoting the same stupid theories but also having unprotected sex. I think this is related partly to AIDS dementia which he has developed and partly not being able to accept his own mortality.

These people are murderers and they turn other people in to murderers. Their lies are almost as dangerous as the virus itself.

I also noticed a lot of homophobia in their writing - saying that AIDS is caused by the "gay lifestyle" or by sex-workers.

They are terrible, hatefull people who would happily kill off half the planet just to to satisfy their own monsterous egos.

Keep fighting them Dave!
 
Hey, Dave! You forgot about me!

Paul Whiting
15243 S. Loder Road
Oregon City, OR 97045

Cell Phone No.: 503-803-7415

Web site: http://groups.msn.com/HEAL-Northwest

Feel free to call me, harass me, intimidate me, or threaten me, 'cause I aint goin' away, son! We rethinkers are doing everything above board and legally (wish I could say the same for you) about challenging a scientific theory.

Now, I dunno if you were asleep in Junior High, but ALL SCIENTIFIC THEORIES can be called into question. Period. That is what separates science from religion, kiddo!

Now, if you wanna kindly explain to me how ANY scientific theory is beyond questioning, I'm listening...

Also, I'm GAY! I am out and proud and have been since my early twenties. The HIV theory of AIDS is a myth! That's why HIV has NEVER been isolated as a secure biological matter! Please consider this quote:

“There is NO SUCH THING as the HIV virus. If there was, don’t you think that the multi-billion dollar AIDS industry would have produced a sample of it by now? Something that actually replicates in human tissue? But hey, prove me wrong: Cite the scientific papers showing isola-tion and replication of the virus.” BBC News World Edition (online), 11 Nov. 2003

—Toby Gettins, Theoretical Physicist, Birmingham, UK, researcher, High Temperature Superconductivity, University of Exeter

Now, Is Toby Gettins a "denialist too? Maybe you should start threatening him as well!

Yours in rethinking,

-Paul Whiting
 
Hey, you forgot me too, Davey-Boy!
Just to think that my E-book "The Moronic Majority" was already on my website 1n 1996, when you were still having kittens about a phantom virus you think you're infected with.
Please don't leave me out. Your actions are just too funny to miss out on.

Wilhelm Godschalk, Ph.D.
 
Hey, Davey! Sweetheart! Look, sonny boy! Here are even more quotes from heavily credentialed scientists and doctors who--GASP!--dare to question a severely flawed scientific theory!

My GOD, the blasphemy of it all!

Let's start off with Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the polymerase chain reaction, the basis for the HIV viral load tests:

“It’s not even probable, let alone scientifically proven, that HIV causes AIDS. If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There are no such documents.”

Spin Magazine, Vol. 10 No.4, 1994

“The HIV-causes-AIDS theory is one hell of a mistake.”

Foreword, “Inventing the AIDS Virus”

“Years from now, people will find our acceptance of the HIV theory of AIDS as silly as we find those who excommunicated Galileo.”

“Dancing Naked in the Mind Field,” 1998

“Where is the research that says HIV is the cause of AIDS? There are 10,000 people in the world now who specialize in HIV. None has any interest in the possibility HIV doesn’t cause AIDS because if it doesn’t, their expertise is useless.”

“People keep asking me, ‘You mean you don’t believe that HIV causes AIDS?’ And I say, ‘Whether I believe it or not is irrelevant! I have no scientific evidence for it.’ I might believe in God, and He could have told me in a dream that HIV causes AIDS. But I wouldn’t stand up in front of scientists and say, ‘I believe HIV causes AIDS because God told me.’ I’d say, ‘I have papers here in hand and experiments that have been done that can be demonstrated to others.’ It’s not what somebody believes, it’s experimental proof that counts. And those guys don’t have that.”

California Monthly, Sept 1994

“If you think a virus is the cause of AIDS, do a control without it. To do a control is the first thing you teach undergraduates. But it hasn’t been done. The epidemiology of AIDS is a pile of anecdotal stories selected to the virus-AIDS hypothesis. People don’t bother to check the details of popular dogma or consensus views.”

HIV not Guilty, Oct 5, 1996

“[Aids] is not ‘God’s wrath’ or any other absurdity. A segment of our society was experimenting with their lifestyle, and it didn’t work. They got sick. Another segment of our pluralistic society, call them doctor/scientist refugees from the failed War on Cancer, or just call them professional jackals, discovered that it did work. It worked for them. They are still making payments on their new BMWs out of your pocket.”

Dancing Naked in the Mind Field. Vintage Books. 2000
 
Dave, Sweetheart! How are you today? That's so good to hear!

Well, here come some more quotes from scientists who are so CrAzY enough to actually question an "indisputable" scientific theory! Why, that's unheard of!

Next on the "hit parade," Davey Boy, we have Dr. David Rasnick, PhD, Biochemist, Protease Inhibitor Developer, University of California:

“The HIV hypothesis of AIDS is the biggest scientific, medical blunder of the 20th Century. The evidence is overwhelming that AIDS is not contagious, sexually transmitted, or caused by HIV. The physicians who know or suspect the truth are embarrassed or afraid to admit that the HIV tests are absurd and should be outlawed, and that the anti-HIV drugs are injuring and killing people.”

Mail & Guardian, Johannesburg, SA, Jan 24, 2001

“As a scientist who has studied AIDS for 16 years, I have determined that AIDS has little to do with science and is not even primarily a medical issue. AIDS is a sociological phenomenon held together by fear, creating a kind of medical McCarthyism that has transgressed and collapsed all the rules of science, and has imposed a brew of belief and pseudoscience on a vulnerable public.”

Spin, June 1997

“Fifty percent of Africans have no sewage systems. Their drinking water mixes with animal and human waste. They have constant TB and malaria infections, the symptoms of which are diarrhea and weight loss, the very same criteria UNAIDS and the World Health Organization use to diagnose AIDS in Africa. These people need clean drinking water and treated mosquito nets [mosquitoes carry malaria], not condoms and lectures and deadly pharmaceuticals forced on pregnant mothers.”

Scheff, AIDS Debate, Boston Dig, 2003

“We’ve put 20 years and $118 billion into HIV. We’ve got no cure, no vaccine and no progress. Instead we have thousands of people made sick and even killed by toxic AIDS drugs. But we can’t just treat them for the diseases we know they have because if we do, we’re called ‘AIDS denialists.’ AIDS is a multi-billion dollar industry. There are 100,000 professional AIDS researchers in this country. It’s as hard to challenge as big tobacco at this point.”

Scheff

“Those damn [HIV] tests should be outlawed. They’re lethal. First of all, it’s a death sentence in South Africa. People commit suicide, they’ve been stoned to death, they’ve had their houses burned down, they’ve been murdered. Just for having antibodies to HIV. They have been ostracized. And in certain rural communities, ostracism is equivalent to death. So you’re scared to death, first of all. And then you start taking the anti-HIV drugs, which cause AIDS, and if you take them long enough they will kill you.”

New York Press, vol. 14, no. 16, 2002

“In 1990 at the San Francisco AIDS conference, [HIV co-discoverer Luc] Montagnier announced that HIV did not, after all, kill T-cells and could not be the cause of AIDS. Within hours of making this announcement, he was attacked by the very industry he’d helped to create.”

Scheff

“People can have a high viral load and be healthy and have a low viral load and be sick and everything in between. These guys [AIDS researchers] will admit this between themselves, they just don’t admit it publicly.”

Gear Magazine, March 2000

“The National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control, the Medical Research Council, and the World Health Organization are terrorizing hundreds of millions of people around the world by their reckless and absurd policy of equating sex with death. Linking sex to death has put these organizations in an impossible situation. It would be intolerably embarrassing for them to admit at this late date that they are wrong, that AIDS is not sexually transmitted. Such an admission could very well destroy these organizations or at the very least put their future credibility in jeopardy. Self preservation compels these institutions to not only maintain but to actually compound their errors, which adds to the fear, suffering, and misery of the world — the antithesis of their reason for being.”

British Medical Journal Rapid Response, 18 April 2003

Now I don't know about you, Dave, but if a scientist who actually developed one of the current treatments for "HIV," questions the theory, it would seriously make me wonder about what I was being "fed" by the AIDS orthodoxy...

...just some food for thought, son!
 
Davey Boy, darling! This is going to be my final post to you, dearest! I know, I know!

You're so dissapointed!

But, I just realized that you haven't posted to your blog in over a year and I am assuming one of several things...

Maybe you've lost interest in trying to stem the tide of rethinking that, much like a hurricane, is relentlessly pounding at the shores of the AIDS orthodoxy...

Maybe you are struggling with your health right now and don't have the energy to keep on bloggin'--in which case I can only wish the best for you...

Or, maybe, you may have finally found peace...in which case I can only feel an empty place in my heart for another beautiful human being who was cruelly mislead into thinking that sex is deadly and that the Boogy Man is a retrovirus.

So, my last posting of quotes from http://www.aras.ab.ca/aidsquotes.htm will be from Dr. Peter Duesberg, PhD, Professor of Molecular Biology, University of California, member, National Academy of Sciences, first to map the genetic structure of retroviruses. Five-time recipient of the National Institutes of Health’s Outstanding Investigator Grant. (All federal grants terminated when he started challenging the HIV theory). Author, Inventing the AIDS Virus:

“When AIDS patients’ bodies finally break down from the effects of these anti-viral drugs, they say, ‘Now the virus has become resistant, and the drugs have lost their effectiveness.’ What really is happening is the toxicity of the drugs builds up to a point where the patient cannot stand it anymore. And, of course, they say it was the virus — rather than the entirely inevitable and predictable toxicity of these damned drugs.”

Reappraising AIDS Feb./March 1998

“Many Americans use amphetamines, diet drugs, cocaine and designer party drugs. When you do this for years, you start getting sick. You go to the doctor, who says the first thing you need is an HIV test. You test positive because HIV tests cross-react with antibodies produced by drug use. The doctor puts you on AZT, a DNA chain terminator, which, in high doses, will finish you off in six months. I’m not talking about a one-time use of a party drug. We’re designed to consume a lot of junk, but we’re not designed to tolerate a gram of cocaine, nitrite inhalants or heroin per day, and we’re even less capable of handling AZT.”

Scheff

“This is my battle with John Maddox [editor of Nature] and with people who are actually fabricating the data [Ascher, et al in Nature, March 11, 1993]. They claim to have such a [Aids] group that had not used any drugs. When I analysed the data, it turned out that there was not a single person in their paper that was drug-free. I submitted a critique to Maddox, but his response was, I could no longer respond. I was censored.”

Spin, Sep 1993

“Look, the same virus wouldn’t cause Kaposi’s sarcoma in homosexuals, pneumonia in transplant recipients and ‘slim disease’ in Africa. The HIV theory doesn’t make sense. But we have a totally totalitarian science environment today. You have to become a government contractor to do research. And if you don’t concur with the government — with HIV, with Gallo — you don’t get any money. The fringes are growing, but the majority of researchers are conformists. We have a million PhD’s in this country, and they can’t all be Einsteins. Most of them are just good soldiers; they’ll do as they’re told.”

GQ Nov 1993

[On the AIDS establishment’s rejection of HIV co-discoverer Dr. Luc Montagnier when he said in 1990 that HIV alone cannot be the cause of AIDS]: “There was Montagnier, the Jesus of HIV, and they threw him out of the temple.”

Miami Herald 23 Dec 1990

“HIV is just a latent, and perfectly harmless, retrovirus that most but not all AIDS patients happen to carry. To say that HIV is the cause of AIDS is to cast aside everything we know about retroviruses...The HIV theory is inconsistent, paradoxical, and absurd...”

“The NIH is saying only experts understand AIDS. And who are they? They’re the people who have worked on HIV, whose careers are completely based on HIV, and worse than that, almost all of them have huge commercial interests associated with it. They have companies; they have patents; they make megabucks. It’s much more profitable than their university research. So, those are the judges. These people can afford to send you to Jupiter. But they cannot afford to give $50,000 to Peter Duesberg or somebody else with an alternative hypothesis, like the one to test for drugs as a cause of AIDS. To prove them wrong would mean that they would risk losing their good reputation and their standing in the scientific community as well as their companies.”

Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, June 2000

“Millions of lives that could have been saved won’t be saved if we work on an ungrounded or poorly grounded hypothesis.”

Meditel 1990

“…The point that everybody is missing is that all those original papers Gallo wrote on HIV have been found fraudulent. Well, then, that throws into question the entire HIV hypothesis, doesn’t it? The HIV hypothesis was based on those papers.”

Spin June 1992
 
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